In reply to this comment by darkrowan: crap... somehow I got two of the same post in the queue... mind deleting one? First one said it errored (internal error, please try again). I thought I verified that it had not gone through before submitting again, I guess there was a delay on the first try.
crap... somehow I got two of the same post in the queue... mind deleting one? First one said it errored (internal error, please try again). I thought I verified that it had not gone through before submitting again, I guess there was a delay on the first try.
In reply to this comment by lucky760: That's exactly our concern with all this, and we're going to do everything we can to insure anything we add to the store is legitimate. We'll never add something we don't have 100% confidence in.
Makes sense. FWIW, according to Stanford's database on Copyright and Fair use, the "Right of Publicity" extends not only to a person's likeness, but to their name as well, so you couldn't even use the name "George Lucas". (However, it seems that in the US, the Right of Publicity is not Federal, but state-by-state. According to Wikipedia, Indiana extends Right of Publicity to signatures, gestures, mannerisms, and so on.)
In reply to this comment by lucky760: For paintings and other hand-crafted images, you cannot redraw them because the drawing itself is what's owned by the original artist. But if you trace over their drawing, could it not still be argued that it's a reproduction of a "natural scene", if their drawing was of something natural?
It sounds like you have some experience with the subject - I'm curious about the source of your descriptions for what you can and can't do.
I don't mean to be contrary, but if you're going to be selling shirts designed by "teh publik" then you'll need to be sure you've due diligence with respect to preventing violations of trademark and copyright. The Terms of Use specifies that the submitter must own the design, but I'm not sure if that by itself is enough to protect Tee Virus in the case of a complaint.
- create a vector image of your own from someone else's photo (excluding trademarked logos, etc.) But doesn't this still potentially violate copyright if the original image wasn't public domain? (For instance, the AP was suing Shepard Fairey because he designed the now-famous Barack Obama "HOPE" poster after an AP photo. The poster itself is highly stylized compared to the original photo.) If not, how much different does it need to be before it's not the original photo? By its very nature, it has to be converted to vector, so some modification is inevitable.
And what of situations like Andy Warhol's Campbell's soup can as art? (I looked this up - in most cases the artist would be sued, but Campbell decided to exploit the publicity instead.)
- use an image that resembles a person, but cannot be uniquely identified as being just that person But if the joke is "George Lucas has committed crimes against humanity" then you'd need to be able to uniquely identify George Lucas. I'm sure there are ways around it, but you couldn't use Jar-Jar Binks, either.
I think the usage of a publicity photo for the purposes of criticism would fall under the doctrine of "Fair Use", but I'm not an expert on the subject.
Everything looks the same to me as well - nothing's cut off.
In reply to this comment by lucky760: Do you mean the image is cut off? Or is it the text? Everything looks the same to me. Perhaps a screenshot would help.
hah, thanks. I had a different shirt in mind for that, but couldn't get it to work properly with the tools in inkscape. So, the name has nothing to do with how the shirt is now. I'm not too sure what the hell happened in that one, but I've made a few other "text" shirts, and they all turned out fine.
I shall do so once I get a chance (really busy at work)
In reply to this comment by lucky760: That's really helpful info for people unfamiliar with Inkscape - exactly the kind of topic that deserves a Design Talk post of its own.
We envision that discussions about how to design things would be the most popular type of post in Design Talk, so it'd be great if you wanted to kick off that trend with a brief explanation of the Trace Bitmap tool for the less knowledgeable.
In reply to this comment by spoco2: I got a photo, used photoshop to remove background and save as a .png with transparency, then plonked it into inkscape and did 'Path->Trace Bitmap' and then selected the 'Grays' option in there. And then possibly fiddled a bit more...
My designs have
Feature request: something like a (star)Discard for own design, in case things like this happen
In reply to this comment by lucky760:
No problem 'tall. Done.
In reply to this comment by darkrowan:
crap... somehow I got two of the same post in the queue... mind deleting one? First one said it errored (internal error, please try again). I thought I verified that it had not gone through before submitting again, I guess there was a delay on the first try.
That's exactly our concern with all this, and we're going to do everything we can to insure anything we add to the store is legitimate. We'll never add something we don't have 100% confidence in.
Makes sense. FWIW, according to Stanford's database on Copyright and Fair use, the "Right of Publicity" extends not only to a person's likeness, but to their name as well, so you couldn't even use the name "George Lucas". (However, it seems that in the US, the Right of Publicity is not Federal, but state-by-state. According to Wikipedia, Indiana extends Right of Publicity to signatures, gestures, mannerisms, and so on.)
For paintings and other hand-crafted images, you cannot redraw them because the drawing itself is what's owned by the original artist.
But if you trace over their drawing, could it not still be argued that it's a reproduction of a "natural scene", if their drawing was of something natural?
It sounds like you have some experience with the subject - I'm curious about the source of your descriptions for what you can and can't do.
I don't mean to be contrary, but if you're going to be selling shirts designed by "teh publik" then you'll need to be sure you've due diligence with respect to preventing violations of trademark and copyright. The Terms of Use specifies that the submitter must own the design, but I'm not sure if that by itself is enough to protect Tee Virus in the case of a complaint.
- create a vector image of your own from someone else's photo (excluding trademarked logos, etc.)
But doesn't this still potentially violate copyright if the original image wasn't public domain? (For instance, the AP was suing Shepard Fairey because he designed the now-famous Barack Obama "HOPE" poster after an AP photo. The poster itself is highly stylized compared to the original photo.)
If not, how much different does it need to be before it's not the original photo? By its very nature, it has to be converted to vector, so some modification is inevitable.
And what of situations like Andy Warhol's Campbell's soup can as art? (I looked this up - in most cases the artist would be sued, but Campbell decided to exploit the publicity instead.)
- use an image that resembles a person, but cannot be uniquely identified as being just that person
But if the joke is "George Lucas has committed crimes against humanity" then you'd need to be able to uniquely identify George Lucas.
I'm sure there are ways around it, but you couldn't use Jar-Jar Binks, either.
I think the usage of a publicity photo for the purposes of criticism would fall under the doctrine of "Fair Use", but I'm not an expert on the subject.
"Stop staring at my tits" (a pair of these guys)
"Stop staring at my boobies" (a pair of these guys)
"Stop staring at my hooters" (a pair of these guys)
"Stop staring at my knockers" (a pair of these guys)
"Stop staring at my jugs" (a pair of these guys)
(I'd make them myself, but all I'd know how to do is Google the images and Trace Bitmap, and that violates the terms of use.)
In reply to this comment by lucky760:
Do you mean the image is cut off? Or is it the text? Everything looks the same to me. Perhaps a screenshot would help.
In reply to this comment by dag:
This is chopped off for me now. Can't see the C'thulhu
In reply to this comment by lucky760:
That's really helpful info for people unfamiliar with Inkscape - exactly the kind of topic that deserves a Design Talk post of its own.
We envision that discussions about how to design things would be the most popular type of post in Design Talk, so it'd be great if you wanted to kick off that trend with a brief explanation of the Trace Bitmap tool for the less knowledgeable.
In reply to this comment by spoco2:
I got a photo, used photoshop to remove background and save as a .png with transparency, then plonked it into inkscape and did 'Path->Trace Bitmap' and then selected the 'Grays' option in there. And then possibly fiddled a bit more...